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rivkat ([personal profile] rivkat) wrote2004-10-20 05:58 pm

Political joke

Could be read two ways: "I'll bet you this. If Mary Poppins and Dick Tracy vote on Election Day, they'll vote for John Kerry."

But who will get Lex Luthor's vote?

I do wonder about my interpretations of characters' political views. I always thought Scully was a Republican and Mulder didn't vote. In Smallville, I'm guessing almost everyone's registered Republican, though I wouldn't be surprised if Lex thinks he would have voted for Perot and McCain if given the chance. What do you all think? Is Martha a closet pinko? (Skip obvious Lana joke.)

[identity profile] amandajane5.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 03:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Mmm, yes, but I've always thought the Kents were Democrats. They are, after all, farmers, and farmers do get quite a bit of government help.

I may be wrong here, though. Hmm.
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[personal profile] longtimegone 2004-10-20 03:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always thought the Kents were Democrats.

Yeah, I'd have to agree with you there.

And I've always thought of the Republican party as a very..."survival of the fittest" party. Thus I think the Luthors would feel right at home there.

[identity profile] aelora.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 04:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd have to disagree. You're talking Kansas here. And everyone who lives in this state, *especially* the farmers (hicks) are Republicans. Remember, we're the state that once decided to (and is about to again) cut the teaching of evolution out of all school curriculums. The first ever Democratic governor was voted in last year.

It's a scary place, I tell ya.

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 05:27 pm (UTC)(link)
That was my reasoning, too. I really want to read the book What's the Matter with Kansas?.

[identity profile] amandajane5.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 06:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, okay, I did mention having to think about it. My grandparents are farmers, but in Virginia, so I know it's different from Kansas, but they're also old school Catholic Democrats, so I don't, generally, 100% know where I'm coming from (my grandfather is from an old school New York family). I know what I believe, and I know that Virginia has it's own fair share of farmer Republicans (my own relatives included), Virginia is a black and white state - you are, or you aren't, you know, but you don't, you agree, or not, but in presidental elections? Virginia votes Republican. I mean, we had the first black governor, but then we're a not so much with the important electoral college votes. I keep hoping, because I do love VA, that I'll not be embarrassed by my state's politics, but I generally am. We lobby the state regularly (I work for local government) and get ignored. It's a losing battle, but I try to, um, help? Make the vote more even?

I don't know. It's unlikely that I'll cast a single vote for anyone elected. But hey, the first time I ever voted, it was against Ollie North, and Virginia *didn't* elect him, so that's something.

And eh, I'm being all repeating myself. I don't know if farmers are Democrats in Kansas. I think they should be, but what I think and what people do live in separate worlds.

I'm hopeful - hey, even Virginia's polling as "slightly Bush" nowadays! That's sooper hopeful!

[identity profile] k-r-bear.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG icon love! Umm..I bet Sandy on the OC is voting for Kerry! (felt the need to at least acknowledge the subject)

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 05:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I made it; I know the quality's not great, but I felt such a burning need to acknowledge one of the greatest movies ever made.
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[identity profile] cathexys.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 04:13 pm (UTC)(link)
not sure whether we RPF folks are lucky or not to actually "know" a lot of times :-)
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not sure whether we RPF folks are lucky or not to actually "know" a lot of times :-) <small*points to Lance Bass icon*</small>

i sometimes wonder whether the writers and we, of course, do not tilt the characters to the left...but yes, i think the kents might just vote republican for their supposed "american values"...then again, that same moral BS might drive Lex to the left...

I just read a wonderful article in a German magazine where they interviewed this physician in the heartland who talked about the way he agrees with so much of thre republican's platform yet the war alone will make him vote for kerry...have elections always been this single issue outweighs everything???

hee heee... butting in at random

[identity profile] westmin.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 04:43 pm (UTC)(link)
sorry... i realize this is supposed to be a semi-serious (at least) post.. but i just happened to be reading the 2nd paragraph of this clex fic by [livejournal.com profile] muse_attack (http://muses.amiss.org/politics.html), and i checked my flist, and saw your post. XD

*mops OJ off monitor*

Re: hee heee... butting in at random

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
No, it's an entirely appropriate response -- I like the story, too. Alexander the Fabulous has always been one of my favorite nicknames for Lex.

[identity profile] mecurtin.livejournal.com 2004-10-20 07:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Chloe would work for Kerry, even if Gabe votes Republican -- though he might be a sekrit Democrat.

Martha is voting for Kerry (abortion, also the draft), but she's not going to tell Jonathan because she doesn't want to get him all riled up.

Lex might well give money to everybody, then vote Libertarian. He might (at one point, anyway) have supported the Dems just to distinguish himself from Lionel, who is a *major* Republican contributor.

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure Martha's pro-choice, actually, but I agree that if she is voting for Kerry, she ain't sayin' so.

I also think Lex is going to vote for somebody who might win. He's wealthy enough that he might actually support Kerry, not being forced to survive on a mere million a year, and I agree that Not His Father's GOP is a big consideration.

[identity profile] luluminion.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
My speculation got kind of wordy, so I turned it into a post (http://www.livejournal.com/users/amyth71/41701.html#cutid1).

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 08:54 am (UTC)(link)
Interesting! I want to believe that Martha secretly votes Democratic, but I'm not sure -- I wouldn't even place a bet that she's pro-choice, since she might see abortion as the ultimate Bad Thing given her own wish for children. I love your explanation of Jonathan's views.

[identity profile] luluminion.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 09:28 am (UTC)(link)
I want to believe that Martha secretly votes Democratic, but I'm not sure -- I wouldn't even place a bet that she's pro-choice, since she might see abortion as the ultimate Bad Thing given her own wish for children.

Hmm. I never thought of that. I would hope that if that were true that Martha would be both against abortion and pro-choice, but it's hard to say. The Kents have a well-developed sense of the importance of personal privacy, especially post-Clark, but I don't know if that would translate to pro-choice views.

btw I love your Real Genius icon! I just got that on DVD a couple of weeks ago. *love*

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 11:13 am (UTC)(link)
Are there good extras? I have the videotape but would definitely buy the DVD if the extras are nice.

[identity profile] luluminion.livejournal.com 2004-10-22 06:11 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I'll have to check. I got it in the mail, popped it immdiately in the DVD player and watched it. (So good to see after all these years! I don't have it on tape.) Then I put it on my bookshelf. Much to my embarrassment, I never checked for extras.

From what I remember, though, I got the impression that there weren't many, if any. I'll double check on that, though.

[identity profile] bettyp.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
Scully used to be a Republican, and she's now not entirely sure that she's a *Democrat,* but she's voting for Kerry this year, partially in protest of the war, and partially because she feels betrayed and abandoned by her party, which was once the rock-ribbed, Dwight D. Eisenhower party of fiscal restraint and sober meritocracy, but has now become a dismal stew of anti-intellectualism, religious triumphalism (Catholics, btw, often not a fan of the New Right, knowing full well that Catholics fall low on the list of Bad Things from a fundamentalist POV nowadays, but still *on* the list nonetheless), bad education policy, gutted international intelligence community, and gobs and gobs of money funneled into big oil and energy companies. Also, the anti-intellectualism, did I mention that? Scully *hates* that. (Also, someone who authorized taking her own child off life support because she "wasn't meant to be" is pretty profoundly canonically pro-choice and right-to-die.)

She's still not just real crazy about the Democrats, who strike her as pretty loony and not too good at getting things done, but she's far too practical to throw a vote away on some harebrained third-party candidate just to make a statement. That kind of thing is so...*Mulder.*

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 11:16 am (UTC)(link)
Fair enough! I admit I analyzed Scully's politics years ago, so the Republican thing could have changed as the Republicans changed.

Mulder would absolutely vote in a completely useless way, if he voted at all. I can see him denouncing participation as a sham and a delusion, complete with rant about the manipulability of electronic voting machines.

Of course, this raises the question whether they can even vote at all -- aren't they on the run waiting for the world to end? If they vote under assumed names, is that wrong?

[identity profile] bettyp.livejournal.com 2004-10-22 06:13 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe they *are* Mary Poppins and Dick Tracy. Someone should really write that story.

[identity profile] rivkat.livejournal.com 2004-10-22 06:28 am (UTC)(link)
You have a deeply disturbed mind. I like it.

I volunteer you for that story.

[identity profile] dedevjv.livejournal.com 2004-10-21 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I live in Texas. Although I'm no farmer, most if not all farmers in Tx are Republican. Government subsidies are a number one reason. Actually, most in this state are Republican.

I could see Lex as a Southern Democrat.